Amusement Park Acres

Sunday, November 7, 2004 12:06 AM
How many acres are currently developed at these parks: Michigans Adventure, Valley Fair, Geauga Lake, Hershy Park, Knott's Berry Farm and Dorney Park.

Thanks,

Jacob

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 12:49 AM
Geauga Lake is 690 acres according to the last SFI 10-K Sec & Exch Report (when it was still SFWOA), though that figure includes the area of the large lake in the center of the property too...

As for the others...well, you're on your own!


If you can't stand the heights, get out of the line.

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 11:29 AM
Alot!
Kennywood Team Member Since 2003 Kennywood is CLOSED
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Sunday, November 7, 2004 12:21 PM
So, are you involved in some sort of trivia contest? I just wonder why you would have so many random and tough questions...
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Sunday, November 7, 2004 12:39 PM
Dorney = 200 acres

Hershey = 110 acres

Valleyfair = 90 acres

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 12:40 PM
.. the lake is between 50-70 acres ..

.. can't remember ..


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Sunday, November 7, 2004 4:12 PM
How much room does Kings Island have left?
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Sunday, November 7, 2004 6:41 PM
KBF is 160
MIA is 250
VF is 125

http://www.cedarfair.com/public/company/properties.cfm

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 7:43 PM
Is this just "in the park" area, or overall area owned by the company? I know Hershey says the "park" is 110 acres, but the Zoo is an extra 10 or 15 acres, plus there's Chocolate World, the old arena, the stadium, service center, etc. And the parking lot has to be at least 30 ac. I think rule of thumb is like 120-130 cars per acre, allowing for aisles and access drives.

I'm also kind of surprised that Dorney would be nearly twice as large as Hershey. Doesn't seem even as large, let alone twice as big.

Maybe Jacob is one of them Powerball winners and he's going to buy some land and some rides and put up his own brand new park.

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 7:55 PM
^That is only in my hopes and my dreams.

-Jacob

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 8:11 PM
Hmmm, well, if you're looking for just the size of the developed park itself, the Geauga Lake figure I gave you is for the entire owned property...

If you can't stand the heights, get out of the line.

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Monday, November 8, 2004 12:10 AM
I could be wrong but I think GL has a little over 400 acres devolped as of SFWoA days, obviously one can argue thats different since half the park remained closed this season.
GL ride host 2001-2003, Rides Superviser 2004-05
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Monday, November 8, 2004 9:37 AM
and people say size doesn't matter...

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-Mark

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Monday, November 8, 2004 1:38 PM
Hopes and dreams are what keep us going, Jacob.
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Monday, November 8, 2004 3:22 PM
janfrederick's avatar 160 Acres for KBF?? With Disneyland at around 55 acres, that sounds a little exaggerated...but I've seen that figure elsewhere.
"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
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Monday, November 8, 2004 3:45 PM
Mamoosh's avatar Perhaps the 160 figure for Knotts includes their many parking lots and the hotel?
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Monday, November 8, 2004 5:02 PM
janfrederick's avatar Must be. I always figure the park itself to be somewhere around 35 or 40 acres. But, if you add up the surrounding property...I don't see why not.

Hey, speaking of that, whatever happened to the plans to expand the park accross the street? Did the city council not like the idea or something?


"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
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Monday, November 8, 2004 5:11 PM
Mamoosh's avatar I think its more a problem of logistics and money. Parks split by major streets can be problematic by some [see SFKK].
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Monday, November 8, 2004 6:20 PM
janfrederick's avatar Right...but there was discussion a while back right?

I guess when intamin told them they could fit a hyper where the Windjammer was, and B&M told them they could build over the lake, they decided to put it off.

I wonder if they'll be thinking about it any time soon.

It'd be really cool to extend the train ride.

Also, didn't the stagecoach make a jaunt across the street at one point?


"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
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Monday, November 8, 2004 7:00 PM
Mamoosh's avatar I'm sure this has been discussed before. And while I'm not privvy to the park's plans I'll give my uneducated .02 cents:

Unless you're suggesting funnelling patrons thru a tunnel or on an overpass to the new section of the park it means a complete redesign of the traffic flow on Beach Blvd, Grand Avenue, and other streets. That's a hefty price tag unless you can get the city of Buena Park to help. IIRC Anaheim helped with the new freeway off-ramps for the Disney resort but then how often does Disney not get their way?

And we have not even mentioned parking. If Knotts wants to develop the main parking lot on the other side of Grand Ave or the lot behind the hotel you're going to have to replace those spots, and with limited land my guess would be parking structures, also costly.

I think Knotts will continue to maximize the existing space, removing old rides and attractions and squeezing in new rides where possible before expanding across any of the streets that border the park or into the Radisson parking lot.

I've been visiting the park since 1965 and I don't recall the stagecoach path crossing any streets. However the stables are across the street from Xcelerator near the boneyard, so given the right timing one can witness coaches crossing La Palma.

mOOSH

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