Alternate layouts for Premier Spaghetti Bowl

it's not technically the off season and you guys sure are b*****!

I can't wait to see your posts, oh, about January, when real withdrawal starts.

Hawkeye, I said the offseason has started early with the rants ect.

Luckily CB is moderated :)

Chuck, who has been through offseason for several years and mainly finds it humorus to see all the pointless remarks.

I know I make mistakes spelling ect. But when someone sends me a reply about my spelling or grammar and makes mistakes in that reply himself, Well just realize, Nobodys perfect.

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Charles Nungester.
Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!

Chuck, no offense was meant, just noticed some people are getting short with each other lately.

Yes, thank god, CB is moderated.:-)

To get back on topic, as stated before there are only two different layouts of 'spaghetti bowl' coasters, one designed by Vekoma and the other by Premier. Here is a list of all the currently operating coasters:

Premier:
Flight of Fear @ PKI (1996)
Flight of Fear @ PKD (1996)
Mad Cobra @ Suzuka Circuit (1998)
Joker's Jinx @ SFA (1999)
Poltergeist @ SFFT (1999)

Vekoma:
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster @ MGM (1999)
Superman The Ride @ SFH (2000)
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster @ Walt Disney Studios Paris (2002)

As for Premier's future, I don't have a clue what to expect. Their site hasn't been updated in over 2½ years. I find it interesting that their pattern of installations over the years has dropped considerably:

1996: 4 coasters
1998: 5 coasters
1999: 3 coasters
2000: 1 coaster
2001: 1 coaster
2002: 0 coasters

Maybe they're headed in the direction Arrow has been this past year.

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-Vater
Track Record: 116

*** This post was edited by Vater on 9/25/2002. ***

Well, their largest selling product, the LIM launch, has been upstaged. I really like JJ and B&R, but why would a park buy a less marketable ride? I hope they come back also... lap bar loopers are fantastic. BTW, I think a cool layout would start with a tophat and cobra roll. Keep the awesome ending, and try to drop a vertical loop right into the middle of the course.

SFArules, FOF's first two inversions are indeed a Cobra Roll followed by a Immelman

Chuck who thinks that final snap roll corkscrew can throw you for a loop :)

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Charles Nungester.
Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!

If you want to see what RnRc looks like without the building, go to www.wdwmagic.com and click on RnRc and click on construction photos.

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I am proud to say my homepark has 3 B&M's, soon to be 4!

Charles Nungester said:

Thanks for the spanking, May I have another?

Fruit Loops anyone?

Actually i thought the first 2 inversions were a cobra roll and a sidewinder.....dont inverts only perform Immelmans cuz ive surely never seen one on a regular sit down ride..somebody correct me if im wrong.

Wildfire, a B&M sit-down at Silver Dollar City, begins with an immelman before its vertical loop:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery720.htm?Picture=2

Superman, a B&M floorless in Spain, has an immelman after its vertical loop:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1366.htm?Picture=20

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James Draeger
-Proud co-founder of the Coasterbuzz street team

For a good pic of Rock-N-Rollercoaster (WDW/MGM) /Superman: The Ride (SFH).

Here is a link.

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery769.htm?Picture=2

Here is a pic of FOFs sidewinder(Premier)

And heres a Immelman of Wildfire(B&M)

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So you believe that you are studying us, then kindly explain why you are the ones trapped in your seats.

Uhh, i just want to mention this. It is sorta premiers fualt for Chiller not dueling. Chiller when launched at the same time take up way too much energy and greys out or blacks out the entire area. That is why you will notice, that they accually wait until the train that was just launched to finish through all of the LIMs before the next train launches, that means even the LIMs at the top. The only way to solve this problem and duel them is to build a generator just for the ride. So, in a way it was a bad design...

Hey Universal's IOA's needed an extra generator for Incredible Hulk. I don't think a sf's park would do it , although this is there big park. I dont know, it woudl be cool to see em running together.

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-ANDREW-
http://insanerides.fateback.com