Alpengiest Cobra Roll

Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:59 PM
Is the Cobra Roll on Alpengiest smoother than the other cobra Rolls on inverts? It looks smoother than others.
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:06 PM
NO!  It hurt like a mutha!  (Unless you're upfront)
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:19 PM
No, I found it "snapped" through it very quickly, unlike Raptor's smooth roll.  But it's the only cobra roll I really like!
You can't spell "dishonorable" without "honorable."
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:42 PM
Funny, I felt the same way about Alpie. The cobra roll was snappy and intense....and I loved it!

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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:18 PM
To put it in First-Person mode, the following dialogue is my sister riding right next to me in the front row:


You get the rips you right through very quickly.

Bomb Squad Technician

If you see me running, try and keep up!

Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:52 PM
Yea the cobra roll on Alpengeist is pretty intense compared to the Raptors, but they are both great rides.
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:09 PM
personally i felt that the cobra roll on raptor was much better......i don't really care for the whipping action.  that seems sort of uncharacteristic of B&M.  their rides are just so smooth and fluid.
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:11 PM
it must have gone to pieces..I rode Aplengeist the first year it opened, actually the first weekend, and it was soo smooth.  I loved the ride. 

"The doctor said I wouldn't have as many nose bleeds if I could just keep my finger out of there!" -Ralph

Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:17 PM
If I had to pick, I'd say Alpengeist has a better cobra roll. Riding through it in the back seat is definitely an intense moment of the ride! And the snap is much more abrupt than on Raptor.

James Draeger
"Legend is a wooden Jesus"

Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:43 PM
I found it rough, but not painfully rough. I'll agree with those who said it was snappy.
"The Ozzman Cometh"
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:09 PM
Yeah, it looks snappy....DD Ice had a snappy one so I can relate.  If only all cobra rolls could be like Kumba's.
Is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable?
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:20 PM
It is INTENSE.  Probably one of the highlights of the ride.  I really like the way it whips you through it, its almost disorienting which is really great!

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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:11 PM
It's not rough at all,just intense.You can actually feel the g's on that sucker.
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:37 PM
As you can see, my favorite coaster is Alpengeist.  On my website, I have the Alpengeist cobra roll as my favorite inversion.  It is so big and so powerful.  It's not rough or bumpy it's just fast and again, powerful.  I love it.

I haven't worked on the site for awhile.  It will completely change during the 2002 season.  I won't add it to coasterbuzz until next year.

1. Alpengeist, 2. Magnum XL-200, 3. Superman: Ride of Steel (SFNE), 4. Volcano: The Blast Coaster, 5. Apollo's Chariot
Close Calls 1. Grizzly (PKD), 2. Batwing, 3. Montu

Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:44 PM
one of the most disorienting inversions, this is due to all the crazy speed at which the inversion is taken at, the speed causes the snap that is so disoreinting and forceful.

 I love the manuever, but I can see how some complain about it, it is not typical of B&M. I guess thats another reason why I enjoy the cobra roll so much is that it has a different feel from most of the other B&M cobra rolls. You expect smooth as silk and then suddenly your snapped into the other direction.

The world's a roller coaster and I am not strapped in, maybe I should hold with care, But My hands are busy in the air- Incubus

Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:46 PM
There are a ton of g's exiting the cobra roll, its amazing!
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:59 PM

Ride It said:
"There are a ton of g's exiting the cobra roll, its amazing!"


If you ride Aplengeist just after the middle seat, you will see small Gmeters that you can watch throughout the ride. The meters will show 3.5 Gs and max the meters out. Alpengeist is rated at 3.7 Gs max; and that seems about right. HOWEVER, the 2nd time the Gmeter maxes, it feels quite a bit less then the first inversion.

There are two (maybe three) places where Aplie hits more then 3.25 Gs. The first inversion is one, and the second follows not to long after. I truely can't remember if there is another high G spot or not, but after the first half of the ride most of the Gs are under 2.5

As far as "smooth", I felt that Alpengeist was a bit bumpier then BTR at SFMM. However, the first drop was larger and the elements further apart. I find it VERY difficult to judge beteen the two. I think BTR was smoother and the elements closer making a more intense ride, BUT, the first drop and length of Alpengeist make the experience more worthwile the BTR.

Just my opinion from last summer.

Sprig*** This post was edited by Sprig on 12/12/2001. ***

*** This post was edited by Sprig on 12/12/2001. ***

Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:48 AM

Really?  I didn't know about the Gmeters.  Has anyone else?

Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:57 AM
I personally don't like Cobra Roll's on any B&M, they are slow and bumpy especially on the three sit-downs I've ridden.
Inverts In my opinion, shouldn't have Cobra Rolls - The Batwing inversion as seen on Montu is far more thrilling.
I'm not seeing I hate them, they do add variety to the ride, but I much prefer other inversions such as corkscrews, vertical loops, dive loops and zero-g rolls.  Has anyone noticed how poor the Cobra Roll is on Dueling Dragons?  I think if there is gonna be a Cobra Roll on an inverter - it needs to be big.

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Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:57 AM
Alpengeist's cobra roll is tied for my favorite element, with Apollo's chariot's 3rd drop on the far right seat.  It is good in ANY seat, and is really cool in the very front and the very back.  I like seeing the rest of the train go down on the second half of the roll, then you get ripped down.

Sprig, I have ridden Alpengeist over 130 times, probably 10-20 in the middle seats, and I have never seen a G meter.  Is it only on 1 train, 'cause I haven't seen it.  I used to sit in the middle sometimes because you can get repeat rides, without exiting.  I once got up to 7 rides without getting off.  14 total that day, in maybe 3 hours.


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