Almost Arrested today @ SFWOA

Well taking pictures from you car while driving is a bit dumb, almost like talking on a cell phone and driving.. Y'know something... you typed the cop pulled you over so naturally you were driving and taking pictures.. Y'know something my son could've been ahead of you and you could've caused a rear end accident... use a little more comoon-sense when driving people...

I say go get your camera back, and use a little more common sense next time... :)

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It's the same with concerts. Cameras, recorders, anything of that nature isn't allowed. "Stolen Property" they call it.
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It's a good thing our cops are have stopped wasting thier time on murders and rapists and have started going after the real criminals in our world, photographers.
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Well Corbin taking pictures while driving... and causing a car accident and thus possibly killing someone... is very possible, so yes this cop did a great job, and possibly ceased a accident to happen... Then we have vehicular manslaughter charges, and this is a whole mess... so once again Kudos to Gunree's Finest! :)

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It's not about having contacts in the amusement park industry, It's about knowing your stuff!!! With a degree and job to back you up :)


Corbin said:
It's a good thing our cops are have stopped wasting thier time on murders and rapists and have started going after the real criminals in our world, photographers.
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I dance like a special ed. kid that was given a sparkler.

chances are this dude and people here are talking about park police... not city police ;)... two totally different things

I think that all together it is stupid, why shouldn't people be aloud to take pictures of rides. I can see the rule on not allowing cameras on rides themselves, because it can be dangerous.  But taking pictures of parks from the ground isn't.  There are people who say that they have tightened up since 9/11.  A amusement park will never be the place to hit, it is always something goverment related that they hit. I can understand them being scared of one psyhco bringing a bomb in the park or something, but that is why they search your bags and put in metal detectors, I don't know if they do this at SFWoA though.  Overall, I for one think it is a ridiculas rule. 

And even if it is just park police that are hassleing about taking pictures, there are still bigger issues at hand to deal with in the park than a photographer.  

actually, technically the rides are private property and therfore all pictures are considered "stolen" unless you have permission from the prk (the Kodak Picture Spots) are 'written" permission to take pictures of certain rides.

RagingBullGuy said:
It's the same with concerts. Cameras, recorders, anything of that nature isn't allowed. "Stolen Property" they call it.
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It is different with concerts, because that is bringing a camera into a facility, therefore, not on public property.  If this road was public property, than there should be every right to take photos. 

a amusment park is a facility also... just a different type of one..hehe 
But if you are taking the pictures from a public spot, than it shouldn't be illegal.  If you are taking pictures of your local sports arena froma public road, do you get in trouble than???
There was like a 1,000 page topic on RRC [ok, exaduration] about "photo" stories at SFWoA.. but according to the official rules and guest services (some of the time....) no such policy exists about taking photos off the midway etc. even though some staff and people tell you its not allowed and they don't tolerate it.

I have heard a LOT of really weird stories come out of that park, I am not surprised.

Glad most of you are backing me up. Funkytones, I really dont care if you dont believe me or not.

I didnt even take all of the pics, my dad took some of them from the passenger seat.

And the pics I took, I stopped the car, no traffic was near, took it, and moved on.

And Funkytones, you want the WHOLE story? Reread what I have already written. That IS the whole story.

Uhhhh...don't families and stuff like that take pictures of the park while they are inside it?

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First of all, if it's a public road, you can take any photo you want. There isn't anything questionable about it. Nothing at all.

Here's what I'd do. Call the ACLU. Those crazy bastards love this kind of stuff, especially when it happens in small town America.

Next, I assume this was township or county police. Go to the township trustee meeting or county commissioner meeting (which ever is applicable) and go nuts. Hell, I'll go with you. Complain and be sure to prepare a written statement. Bring copies to give to the press, and also send copies to the TV stations and Plain Dealer.

I don't give two ostrich eggs if what they did was "in the name of security." Bull****. When you start locking down on people you're trampling our rights, and that's just the kind of thing that terrorists want to see. Do we next start stopping people from taking photos at the Rock Hall? The Statue of Liberty? The Washington Monument? The fact that anyone would infringe on your rights as an American in the name of patriotism is disgusting.

Let me know... I'm all about speaking at public meetings and saying what's on my mind. Ask Brunswick City Council.

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P>FONT style="BACKGROUN-COLOR: #ffffff">Cedar Point actually TAKES pictures of families, lol. I dont see how you did anything wrong goose./P>
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Uh oh!!! Jeffs riled up now!!! Someones going to get an earfull before this is all said and done.

Seriously though, I say go for it. The whole situation(if Mongoose is telling the whole story) is just completely anal on the officers part. He probably had nothing better to do but harrass someone for the littlest thing. Photagraphy taking falls under "Freedom of the Press" law I believe.

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You know Jeff, I am so proud right now to surf this site.  Nice things you said there.  Take care, and Merry Christmas, everyone!
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Also doesn't the police officer have to have just cause to pull you over and search your car even if its just for a digital camera?  Doesn't the bill of rights protect you from illegal search and seizure and freedom of the press?  I would be furious about this issue and would go straight to the city council.
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ALF is cool said:
actually, technically the rides are private property and therfore all pictures are considered "stolen" unless you have permission from the prk (the Kodak Picture Spots) are 'written" permission to take pictures of certain rides.

There's not one entirely true comment in that statement.

Yes, the parks and rides are private property. That's why you can't use the photos you take for anything more than "personal use" (i.e. selling them). However, you have the right to photograph anything from public property...anything! The actual fact of the matter is that a photo taken from public property could most likely be sold, there'd certainly be objection from the property owner, but my guess is 9 times out of 10 you'd win with a pic taken from public property.

As far as photos in the park go, I guess the parks technically have the right to stop you no matter how ridiculous it would be. If the park asks you to quit taking photos from within their property, then you'd have to. Not much you can do. Kind of like me inviting you into my house and you start taking pictures of my furniture. I have the right to ask you to stop, but I can't stop you from taking photos of my house from the highway.

Finally, those "kodak picture spots" are only encouraging guests to take photos. It has nothing to do with "written permission" - if anything that's an arguement in your defense of taking photos at the park - they encourage it!

Bottom line is you have every right to take those photos.

 

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None of what I said was directed at you. Hell, I didn't even read any of the thread beyond the first post!

If a cop takes your film (or makes you erase it, as the case may be), that's wrong. You won't find a judge in this country who would disagree with me, and if you do, you'll find one who will agree on appeal. That's the core issue here.

Apparently we have a philisophical difference. You can't have freedom without liberty and vice versa. When you start stomping on people's liberties, you have no freedom. Photographing a roller coaster on a public road is not a crime, there are no laws against it, and therefore the police acted outside of their powers. They should be called on it.

America was meant to be a free and open society. There has always been something to fear as Americans. The Brits, the Spanish, each other (civil war), the Koreans, the Vietnamese, the Cubans, the Japanese, the Germans, the Soviets and now terrorists. What else is new?

I'm sorry, but just because our security was breached is not a reason to hide in a cave and be scared. Nor is it a reason for law enforcement to step outside of their bounds as outlined by the Constitution. I appreciate everything the military and police do for this country, but they don't make the laws, the people we elect do. When that's no longer true, this is no longer the United States.

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"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

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