After two weekends of beer sales at Kennywood, nothing happened

New York City, I paid $12 a pop for Sam Adams Octoberfest at TGI Fridays across from MSG. You don't even want to know what Matt's Long Islands cost.

In other areas of the country you'd be paying $12 a soda of Sam's.

~Rob

I still call it soda.

Carrie J. said:

eightdotthree said:

It's Pennsylvania. This is the same state where they attempted to open up wine sales in grocery stores and you had to blow into a breathalyzer attached to a vending machine so that a real person in Harrisburg could confirm that you weren't drunk rather than just have the real person in the store make that decision.

No doubt that Pennsylvania is bizarre when it comes to alcohol sales. But does that mean that the state imposed the limitations that Kennywood is observing? I don't recall if Hershey has the same kinds of limitations. I'm guessing that many guests don't even know you can buy beer at Hershey.

I certainly knew. Hehehe...

But in all seriousness, if they're seriously limiting the beer intake like that, what is the point? I don't get it. Sure, I like the OPTION to get beer in a park, but it is not much of an option really. Meh...

I have no problem with beer in parks, but out of curiosity, what system is in place at Cedar Point to prevent a 21 year old handing off beers to underage friends? Price?

A good police force that knows how to look out for those kinds of things.

Aside from police, it's no different than anywhere else. As far as I know there's nothing in place (at Cedar Point or anywhere else for that matter) to prevent adults from buying liquor for minors. I'm not sure how you could enforce something like that, unless you make the adult consume the liquor before leaving the cash register.

I believe several of the conditions were placed on the park by the PLCB before they would grant the license. Don't forget, there was a state legislator involved in "talks" between the park, the Board and the public to assuage their (the public's) fears.

Pennsylvania's archaic liquor laws are the direct result of the state employees' union who put up a fight and spout stupid propaganda any time it's suggested that the state privatize its stores.

1) Private owners would be criminal scumbags who would freely hand out liquor to teenagers and blatantly disobey as many laws as possible.

2) Liquor store employees would be sub-minimum wage workers who wouldn't care about their jobs and would freely hand out liquor to teenagers and obviously drunk people. Oh yeah, and they'd probably start selling drugs there too.

3) Stores would be open all hours of the night and would attract a criminal element. (Because store owners like to pay employees to sit around for hours when there are no customers.)

4) Alcoholism rates as well as DUI accidents and deaths would skyrocket, so PA would go from bring ranked #1 to, um well, #1 in alcoholism.

These are actual arguments I've seen in letters to the editor. They're even more ludicrous when delivered by the head of the union on a TV panel show when he walks onto the set wearing his $1,000 suit and flashing his Rolex every chance he gets.

And BTW, another reason why liquor costs more in Pennsylvania is because of the tax levied to help pay to repair damages from the Johnstown Flood--- of 1936.

At the hotel, we have a bar literally feet from the front desk where I work. Every Saturday night there are many drunks. Usually we have to throw at least one person out for being belligerent and stupid. Bar fights are a regular occurrence and are handled swiftly. Usual attendance on any given Saturday is below 50 people. Now, there is an obvious difference between going to a bar and getting drunk and having a drink in an amusement park. However, some do not know their limits or cannot help themselves. In fact, we have a regular that gets so drunk, he just meanders to the security guard or slumps over to me and says slurredly (if that is even a word), "I need help." And we help him to his room every Friday and Saturday night. I am glad to see the limits in place to help thwart what I see happen every week.

Can't the bartenders cut them off or ask them to leave (however gently or firmly they need to)? Seems to me it's in the business's interest not to lsoe customers because of a few obnoxious nasty drunks or because the police get called in.

Sounds like a classy hotel.

Let's be completely honest here for a second... I've sneeked a few beers in my young age, and nowadays I might drink only two or three beers a year. Every kid should have at least one memory of doing something that they weren't supposed to do and not getting in trouble for it. :)

On the other hand, I have known a few completely stupid alcoholic teenagers who make it their number one objective in life to get drunk and screw. I don't think that the problem there is alcohol, it's stupidity. If they want it, they are going to find a way to get it.

Not to mention that, as a former underage drinker, I can vouch that trying to buy beer from a place that IDs, surrounded by families and of-age people, in a place with its own police force, is about the last place that anyone would try to acquire alcohol from.

In fact, I think I just about covered it once before.

Reminded of the guy who tried to sneak some alcohol to his daughter at Universal during HHN a year or two ago....didn't work out too well for him, as I recall.

They have some serious security at HHN looking out for underage drinking. They take it very seriously

I forgot about Epcot. We used to do the around the world thing when I was on the college program. We all had a solid buzz but no one got stupid drunk. We definitely couldn't afford to get loaded on Disney wages.

When pre-SFNE Riverside had the race track in back they had $1 beer night on Sundays in the fall. That was fairly horrible night to work. But also the only I remember seeing ridiculously drunk people in a park.

eightdotthree said:

Sounds like a classy hotel.

Oh, it is.

RatherGoodBear said:

Can't the bartenders cut them off or ask them to leave (however gently or firmly they need to)? Seems to me it's in the business's interest not to lsoe customers because of a few obnoxious nasty drunks or because the police get called in.

It has just been more apparent because of the new law requiring people to smoke outside. The bar is increasing in popularity and the hotel has not lost customers for that reason.

only two beers per day are allowed for each person.

Are the beers 24 oz cans of Steel Reserve?

^Nope....Hi-Gravity beers. ;~)