Actor calls 13-year-old girls "whores" at Universal Hollywood, according to cell phone video

Posted Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:29 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Two 13-year-old girls say they were called an inappropriate name by a character at Universal Studios Halloween Horror Nights. The incident was caught on camera. Roxy Fisher and her friend Kayla Beals went with a group to Halloween Horror Nights on Sept. 26 to have some fun. But instead, they say they felt embarrassed by what the character said.

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Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:09 PM

Having been to "The Purge" zone... IMO, was just the character doing their normal routine. I can't imagine what these girls would have done if they got "verbally assaulted" by the first guy you see in the Dusk Till Dawn house!

IMO, way overblown. It's an adult-based event and these people are in character. Nothing is wrong with what happened in this particular case, to me. I kind of wish Universal would have just said "Sorry, but tough...". This is not Disney, after all.

People are just soft these days and desperate for attention... IF anything, they are so worried about people in their school making fun of them, yet are all over the news now about it... Riiiiight. Perfect sense.

Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:21 PM
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No, people are assholes. You don't call kids that, ever.

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Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:39 PM

Jeff, the event was a R-rated event. It was not a PG event like you would get at Disney. Adult Langauge will be used at such events. HHN does have warnings in the FAQ section giving explicit warning that this is an adult themed haunt not meant for 13 year olds.

I blame the parents more than I do the actress who is a female. You expect such language at R rated haunts since it's meant to shock the crowd and if it offends the 13 year old feelings then so be it. They shouldn't have been there period. Did it offend the 13 year old girls when they was exposed to strippers who was dancing in cages doing simulated sex acts and it was on video screens around the park. Words don't hurt anyone and you have to look at where it was said, If it was out on the streets then you have a right to be offended but you know what you are getting in for at HHN and if you aren't ready for that type of atmosphere then don't go.

The only reason why Universal apologized was to cover it's ass because of PC fools who like to cause trouble when there is none to be found.

Last edited by Screamlord, Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:53 PM
Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:10 PM
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Edit: a lot of what I had to say apparently didn't save when I hit submit, though the quotes stayed, weird. I'll finish later.

I got a lot to say, so here it goes:

GoBucks Said: Total fail on the guest relations issue.

I agree. However...

And the actor was totally wrong. Never should have said that. Very inappropriate. Should be disciplined. Firing definitely should be on the table.

Totally disagree, but we'll get into that in a sec. And yes, it was an overreaction.

If you or your kid can't handle being offended blood, gore, hearing people say "Oh $@%^"

I agree, and would also add in if your child can't handle being called insulting names. Again, wait for it...

It's called professionalism.

No, it's called an adult themed event with coarse language. But people seem to be skipping over that little bit of it because some kid who shouldn't have been there in the first place got their feelings hurt.

On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that a guest relations staffer would decline to produce a manager

So far, this is the one major thing that I feel Universal was out of line in doing. It's customer service. If I ask for a manager for any reason, even if it's to help wipe my butt, that manager better be there asap.

You have got to be kidding me? They're not upset because the kids overheard an adult say "hell" or "ass" or "damn". An adult called the kids (yes, a 13 year old is still a kid) a "bunch of whores". I can't see how anyone can defend that, unless you're just doing it to be contrarian.

No. I'm not kidding you, and I'm not doing it just to be a contrarian. I would NEVER tolerate an employee of mine calling a 13 year old girl a whore. Having said that, I would never put on an adult themed event that aimed to be controversial. I would NEVER take my children, or children in my family/circle of friends to said event, either. Because regardless of whether they could 'handle' it or not, I don't think these things are appropriate for kids, but leave that up to the discretion of parents/guardians as to whether they let their own kids go.

But not at a theme park.

Why? Because it's your opinion, and they should value that above all? The park bills this as a mature event. MATURE. As in, Mature enough to handle being threatened, called names, being chased and yelled at, seeing disgusting things, and be able to go home and not sue the park.

Would this have been ok if they were 16? 18? 21?

I know we get into this latter, and you bring it up a bit, Gonch, but I'll reiterate: It's okay 'within context' to threaten someone here, but it's not okay to insult them, because everyone knows they're going into a theme park where they really aren't going to be killed, but, HEY! WORDS HURT AND STUFF! SO DON'T INSULT ME TOO! BECAUSE INSULTING WORDS ARE REAL, BUT THREATENING ME ISN'T!

Because people don't like to be insulted, which, really, is giving power to the person doing the insulting. The moment you let someone get the better of you, it's your fault. Not theirs.

because 13 year olds call each other far worse

Yeah, where are all the parents here complaining about this when it comes to anti-bullying campaigns? Are you doing you're part? Or are you just sitting behind a screen being insulted?

Adult language generally doesn't scare me, so I'm not sure how that is a tactic to scare anyone. If you wanna scare me, show me something, chase me down.

That isn't the point. The park specifically calls this a mature event, regardless of what the theme (to scare) is. It's an event where people suspend disbelief and go to feel threatened or in danger. And randomly calling someone a whore is both threatening, and could make one feel in danger. Just because YOU don't feel threatened by it, doesn't mean these girls (who were at an event to where you're made to feel threatened and in danger) obviously didn't feel threatened by the insult. Which is why we're here.

I'm making a distinction between a theme park

That's your first mistake. The park bills it as a mature event (I keep having to repeat that, it seems).

If you called my wife or my daughter a whore, in any circumstances, I'd punch you in the balls.

Bravo! Let's all teach our children and families that if someone insults us, whether it's a real or imagined insult, that VIOLENCE is always the answer.

I have to call you out here, just as I would anyone. You may say or think you'd do that, but I have a feeling that if someone actually called you're wife or daughter that name (or something even worse), you may yell at them, but I'd like to think the best and hope you wouldn't physically assult them, and risk going to jail. Over words.

This bull**** excuse of "it's a haunt" is nonsense.

So is threatening and teaching physical violence just because someone insulted you.

It's just on the list of things you don't call women, ever, but especially 13-year-olds.

I'm not directing this to any one person here, but I hope all of you saying this have never purchased a movie, album, or sat and watched a porno where this goes on without immediately ridding yourself of such vile treatment of women.

And the park knows it's in the wrong, judging by its statement.

Having worked in marketing, it's strictly a PR move to make the park look more positive. No more, no less.

I would probably just walk away with my wife and kids.

but what if someone at a haunt yelled a certain derogatory label at an African American guest?

I think the problem here is that 13 year old girls thought they were mature enough to play the game.

Pay attention Tek and RollerCoasterGod. ^This^ is how you play contrarian like a pro to keep the discussion going.

There is no time and place to call a woman a whore, for the same reason we don't use the "N word," call people "gay" or refer to people as "retarded." This isn't an issue of being politically correct, it's an issue of basic human respect and not being an asshole.

Never knew verbal abuse was part of the "show".

unless it is understood that is what the customer is paying you to do.

I honestly didn't think "whore" was considered that big of a deal. If I had to pick the female equivalent of those words, I'd go with the C-bomb.

I work at a department store's customer service desk.

I think the line I'm drawing -- and yes, I'm totally drawing an arbitrary line -- is this:

"Oh, I'm ok with graphic violence and having my life threatened in the name of fun and scares. But if you call me a whore in the same spirit, well then buddy, now you've crossed the line."

It's absurd.

Regardless of anyone's personal opinion, this says a lot. It's okay to fake threaten me, but not okay to fake insult me. Even though they're both fake. Because, WORDS MAN!

you can't tell from looking at me what words I will find offensive.

It just gets too personal.

there is absolutely zero threat to anyone's life and zero violence at these attractions.

So tuck your junk back and show a little empathy. I don't get this desire to make excuses for people being assholes.

And I bet you'd all run and hide if any of our wives or girlfriends came on here and said, "As a woman, this is not OK."

I'd still punch you in the balls if you called my wife a whore, regardless of the context.

I know you see it all as good fun

It's why different forms of entertainment exist.

Pretty sure that Universal doesn't give you a safe word to avoid having your 13-year-old sexual identity verbally assaulted. So, next comparison..

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Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:36 PM
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Mostly TL;DR, but...

Tekwardo said:

...but I hope all of you saying this have never purchased a movie, album, or sat and watched a porno where this goes on without immediately ridding yourself of such vile treatment of women.

As I've said before, there's a significant difference between consuming fiction and what happened here. There is no universe where an adult who should know better, in any context, says that to kids who are quite obviously too young to be exposed to that.

And if you don't agree, I don't care. However, if you really think this is OK, I will think less of you (which I'm sure you won't care about). It just isn't cool to call women this to their face, and it's far worse if they're 13-year-olds.

I keep thinking of the Tina Fey line in Mean Girls...

"...but you all have got to stop calling each other sluts and whores. It just makes it ok for guys to call you sluts and whores."

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Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:54 PM
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This whole event is fiction.

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Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:31 PM

Jeff, when you threaten to punch anyone in the balls for using words. Make sure you either can run fast or be willing to face the consequences for your own actions. IT's called self defense if your fist touches anyone.

You seem to forget that this is a Mature rated r event which means that everyone is going to experience alot of adult language and scenarios that you might not like. This was a set up by the little 13 year old brats who had no business in an adult theme event. IF you don't like the language or the scenarios then go to Disney where the language is PG and the kids aren't offended by anything.

Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:53 PM
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I don't think this was a set-up by "little 13-year-old brats."

I found the line from the clip "...I think later I really understood like that was not okay..." (emphasis added) interesting. My take away being: it made them feel uncomfortable, the end. The real understanding that came "later" stemming, I think, not from the girls but from their mothers.

And I'd still like to see the whole video, as I just don't believe she happened to start recording seconds before being one of the alleged targets.

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Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:47 AM

I agree, slither. It was a set up just like the bill and ted fiasco last year where a few people got thier feelings hurt. The parents should have read the FAQs on the website before taking them to it. They bought the tickets and should have known that HHN was for a mature adult audience. I am sure that Universal will settle this because they don't want any bad press from the hurt feelings of a select group of PC fools.

As my DI used to say about California, it's the land of fruits and nuts.

Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:32 AM
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I stole this from a Facebook conversation we were having about this a few days ago...

...Universal recommends that parents of children under 13 reconsider attending, so the argument that this event is not recommended for children of this age does not pertain to this argument.

Edit - And wow, that is a large pic. Sorry that it takes up so much room on the page.

Last edited by LostKause, Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:33 AM
Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:54 AM
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I read this from the Hollywood Reporter, and found several things of interest.

It turns out they were in a specific haunt, so I will slide the bar a little closer to "you went into a place where uncomfortable things may happen." They didn't remove themselves from a place where they were being called sluts and whores and being bid upon, so I'll move the bar another notch over.

Yes, I'm drawing more lines, here between the 'public' areas of the park and the specific haunts. As Judge Judy likes to say, if you eat the steak, you have to pay for the steak. If you remain in a haunt where things you don't feel comfortable with are happening, you maybe shouldn't get to complain that things happened you didn't feel comfortable with.

I still think that employees of an amusement park shouldn't be referring to guests in such a way, but there's also the element of personal responsibility.

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Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:48 AM
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I keep hearing "but it is a mature event" over and over again. Clearly, if the other person doesn't buy that argument it is a waste to keep repeating it.

One thing that hasn't been brought up, until now, is the actual zone they were in and what it is there to do. They were in the Purge: Anarchy zone. The whole point of this zone is to put on a show straight from the Purge movie franchise. In the movie, they pretty much do human trafficking and auction off different people to be "purged" or whatever. Anyways, this is what the girls were brought on stage to do; to be "auctioned off." They knew this, as it had been going on all night. They were probably even asked if it was ok with them to do it.

Don't you think that if you were playing the part of a sociopath/purge participant/human trafficking auctioneer that you would use these words? It's part of the play/show. Is it particularly scary? No, not really, but it makes the show that you paid $60 to get into more believable.

Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:59 AM
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Realism! Bring your kids to this realistic show so they too can experience what it is like to be involved in human trafficking and sexual assault! What fun!

What is it about "The Purge" that is causing so much trouble at this years haunted attractions? First the brawl at Six Flags America and now this?

Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:20 AM
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Screamlord said:

Jeff, when you threaten to punch anyone in the balls for using words. Make sure you either can run fast or be willing to face the consequences for your own actions. IT's called self defense if your fist touches anyone.

You signed up just to post that? You can put your penis away. It's a silly metaphor, which you would know if you didn't just sign up.

So ask yourself this: If you're this woman "actor," do you personally believe that given your position, it gives you license to say what she did? If so, I think that makes you an awful person. I would think that anyone with a child, especially a daughter, would agree, but apparently not.

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Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:40 AM

Now knowing more facts...the Lady was an INSULT Comedian Purge Actor.

If anyone doesn't know what those are....Go watch some Roasts of Comedy Central on YouTube.

If you still believe all those aweful things (watch uncensored if you want the language they use towards each other) they say to each other are true...Well, then I'm truly sorry for you.

Here's a small video that someone posted of the actor talking/insulting the crowd. You can clearly see she is playing off the crowd, calling them Walmart group, telling someone to hit puberty, talking about a man's dick, etc.

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Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:51 AM
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You keep bringing up context... except for the part that she was knowingly talking to 13-year-olds.

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Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:59 AM
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Except she wasn't. She didn't ask them for ID. She didn't ask their age. She can assume they're young, but you never can tell these days. Once they are inside the house, it can only be assumed they are old enough to handle it.

Also, I'm guessing she can't see perfectly with all the lights shining on her, so again, she saw a group of girls who obviously made it into the attraction, so they "should" have been able to handle it.

I was unsure how I felt about this at the start, but now that I see the video and see what the whole this is all about - All's fair in love and purging.

This is a big case of unnecessary butthurt.

Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:20 PM
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So you'd look at those two girls and ask them out? It wasn't obvious enough?

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Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:36 PM
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No, but I'm also not on a podium with a microphone, and a job description of doing so.

Seeing how many people are walking by that platform, I'm not even convinced she was [just] talking to/about them. I'm willing to bet it was more of a generalized statement about the entire group, in relation to the "auction" than anything else.

Still a case of unnecessary butthurt.

Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:28 PM
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Wow. A lot since I last checked in.

I am now 100% confident that the girls are wrong. It's not even close at this point. They weren't singled out, the 'show' didn't change specifically to harass or try to harm them, all the necessary warnings are in place - they simply were attending something they weren't ready for.

Jeff said:

So ask yourself this: If you're this woman "actor," do you personally believe that given your position, it gives you license to say what she did? If so, I think that makes you an awful person. I would think that anyone with a child, especially a daughter, would agree, but apparently not.

Not only do I disagree, but I disagree VERY strongly.

Then again, I taught my daughter not only that words are just words and no one else can define you if you don't let them, but also to be able to laugh at herself and lastly, to understand the difference between fiction and reality - or in this case, a show and a genuine attack on one's character.

If that makes me an awful human or bad parent then we need more awful humans and bad parents in this world.


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