Posted Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:37 AM | Contributed by Chitown
Mark Daniel Kahn, 27, of San Francisco, pleaded guilty to intentionally causing damage to the computer system used by Six Flags. Kahn will be sentenced at a later time and faces a maximum of a $250,000 fine and 10 years in prison. Kahn allegedly inserted a malicious code into interactive job application forms that were then submitted to Six Flags.
Read more from The State.
The possible sentence seems a little extreme.
I park my car at the mall and leave all the windows down and doors unlocked and someone comes by and glues a note to my seat saying "You should close your windows". Are they responsible, or is it my fault for leaving my car open?
Same thing here. He didn't take anything, he didn't permanently damage anything, he just left a note telling them that their site was vulnerable.
I have to agree with Jeff, 250K and 10 years is way too steep for what he did.
I'm tired of dealing with hackers and malware, spyware, viruses, and even spam. I say throw the book at him and let that be a lesson to everyone else who may be thinking of screwing around with someone else's computer.
Welcome to post 911 penalties when our govt. pushed hacking as an act of terrorism and the penalties with them. And because its electronic and could easily cross state lines (router hops take many paths and its not necessarily what you would think is "direct") it almost instantly becomes a federal crime. Problem is the law hasn't caught up to the technology as its a blanket law.. Hacking a govt site or hacking an amusement park site.. can both carry similar penalties.. Though I would venture to say the wheels of justice would move much quicker on the Govt side....that and the kid would be hired later on by the govt.. I work in IT Network/Security for my company and occasionally have to deal with legal and its amazing some of the penalties electronic crimes carry. Some clearly justified others not as much.. **Speaking of hacking vulnerabilities... I edited this post and I didn't even post it! LOL for some reason there's no name for the user who posted it either. Interesting!And... a*** This post was edited by 8/31/2008 8:11:19 AM ***
Now, if this guy had gone in, and stolen financial records, or caused actual damage to either the company or their patrons, then yes, I could see these types of penalties. But the simple fact is, he went and sprayed graffitti on a wall with water colors.
What makes you think this guy hasn't already or will eventually hack another website following the incident with the Six Flags site?
Put him away.
In my mind, had he stolen financial records or damaged the system, the crime would be hacking and stealing/damaging. The absence of the latter crime doesn't change the first.
Heck, Six Flags should thank him for exploiting their security flaw in the way he did. It could have been someone much more malicious (and smarter in covering their tracks) who did it and done some serious damage in the process.
And back to my first post, if I came out to the car and found notes stuck inside it, I'd close the damn windows next time.
Now someone is getting the hang of it..
Wait for it.. this horse is almost beaten dead..
*** This post was edited by 8/28/2008 7:57:56 AM ***
I think there should be higher penalities for people spraying graffitti. It ruins neighborhoods. When people graffati, it like those people are talking over for the most part. If it's different if some person is saying I love Mandy in graffati, but these people just want to take over, and ruin a certain area. Once you give poor penalities for it, they keep on doing it over and over again. On top of it, they aren't the easiest people to catch so it's even more easy for them to do it.
Go to Delaware, and see the train system how pathetic, and rundown it looks. The whole state of Delaware is just pretty scary to be in with all the graffitti. Gangs takeover, and destroy.
So, I'm glad this person got a decent sized penalty. They shouldn't be messing up someone else's website. Wouldn't you hate it if your website just went down for awhile because someone hacked your website? All your work is destroyed, just like graffati destroys neighborhoods.
I feel egging should be a crime, but not as bad as graffati, and hacking. Egging usually involves throwing projectiles at people or things that could cause damage, and they still have to clean up afterwards. The slap on the wrist makes these things continue over and over again. On Halloween on a street, they were egging the cars that were going by. If you are doing that, I would send them to 4 years in jail. They could kill a person driving down the street.
For the toliet paper thing, I would consider more as it's just a prank.*** This post was edited by Spinout 8/28/2008 10:23:07 AM ***
Since leaching off a open internet signal is a crime in most states should you be put in jail for doing it? Anyone see a problem with this? Think of it like this. Say you are at a coffee shop and you connect to what you think is the free wifi they offer. However, you actually connect to an overlapping open signal. Should you be prosecuted? I know I am getting a little off subject but I almost assume now that the government twists the evidence to convict rather than seeking the truth. You can't trust they don't put a whole lot of spin on everything. I know many people in the criminal justice system and this comes from some of their own mouths "we live in a scary time, people are being convicted of crimes based on an investigatior's opinion as to what the defendant probably was up to." All started when Fuhrer Bush went on his rampage. God I need a drink now.*** This post was edited by Winston 8/28/2008 3:22:09 PM ****** This post was edited by Winston 8/28/2008 11:48:26 PM ***
Wow.. 10 years is absolutely ridiculous for this type of crime. Yes, he hacked into the site and he shouldn't have, but I feel like taking away 10 years of his life is way too strict of a punishment for this. That's the problem with all these new legislations about cyber crime. They don't seem to discriminate between going into a site and trashing everything, and going in and doing something like this.
I'm all too familiar with cybercrimes.. I was just prosecuted for a couple of hacking crimes back in the spring. Nothing this serious though.. I was just bored at my school and decided to explore the network servers. I was looking at 2 years in jail max, and just got off with some community service and 1 year of court advisement. I learned a big lesson from my whole ordeal, and hopefully this guy will too.
You must be logged in to post