A few Arrow Questions..

Monday, January 20, 2003 12:23 PM

Im writing an essay on the history of Rollercoasters for Physics and I chose the great Arrow company.

1.Where was the first Log Flume located at?

2. What was the first Arrow Looping coaster? Corkscrew at CP?

3.(not for essay) Where there any first Generation Arrow Looping coasters

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Monday, January 20, 2003 12:26 PM

1. Six Flags over Texas, Knott's Berry Farm

2. Corkscrew at Knott's Berry Farm.

3. Just a few minor changes as with any developing product I'd imagine.

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Monday, January 20, 2003 12:37 PM

Double Loop at SFWOA is very first generation. So is Loch Ness Monster at BGW

And yes corkscrew at CP was the first arrow looper, though they did the corkscrew a year before the loop.

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Monday, January 20, 2003 1:11 PM
I don't know about the first Arrow log flume, but the first Arrow coaster to have inversions was Corkscrew at Knott's Berry Farm, and it had two corkscrews. The first Arrow coaster to feature a vertical loop was Corkscrew at Cedar Point, with a vertical loop and two corkscrews.

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Monday, January 20, 2003 2:55 PM
Actually, just SFOT had the first log flume.

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Monday, January 20, 2003 4:00 PM
SFOT also had the first mine train.

For your reading pleasure:
Check out; Roller Coasters, Flumes and flying caucers by Robert Reynolds.
It's a comprehencive history on the founders of Arrow.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0965735354/qid%3D1043114335/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-4001839-1984006#product-details

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Monday, January 20, 2003 4:29 PM
SFoT might have had the first "mine Train," but Disneyland had the Matterhorn first (which, to my mind, is the same thing with different scenery and trains).
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Monday, January 20, 2003 4:37 PM

First what?

It's not really the first steel coaster or even the first tubular steel coaster...so, like I was saying, first what?

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:58 AM
First Generation Loopers
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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:13 AM

The Shy One said:
Actually, just SFOT had the first log flume.


And Knott's did as well. Over Texas has a thing for pulling legs on record claims. First tubular steel coaster my ass.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:14 PM

But the first to open was El Aserradero at, what do you know, SFOT in 1963. According to my sources, Timber opened in 1969. Now... tell me which one was first again.

In fact if that date is correct for Timber, SFOT beat them twice. They built the Flume 2 in 1968.

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*** This post was edited by The Shy One on 1/21/2003. ***

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:29 PM
If that's the case, Flume 1 opened at SFOG in '67 (that's a fact). I don't know that any other dates mentioned above are right though.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:52 PM
Technically, the first flume was Pirates of the Carribbean at Disneyland. The first one to look like a log flume would be the one at SFOT; the second was the Mill Race at Cedar Point. I think both opened in 1963.

You want a good history of Arrow? Find a copy of Roller Coasters, Flumes and Flying Saucers, by Robert R. Reynolds, published 1999 by Northern Lights Publishing, ISBN 0-9657353-5-4.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:08 PM

The Shy One said:


First what? It's not really the first steel coaster or even the first tubular steel coaster...so, like I was saying, first what?



I believe this was in refference to my comment on the Matterhorn. Actually, according to everything I've read, and everything I could find on the RCDB, the Matterhorn was the first tubular steel roller coaster.
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