500' Barrier Ever to Be Breached?

Tekwardo said:

You know they make them for adults now, right?

No, I did not. That would certainly relieve some of the ...erm... issues I've been having.

Bunched up in your butt crack? ;)

Lord Gonchar said:

*secretly glad no one has noticed I'm wearing underoos*

*secretly disappointed no one has noticed I'm going commando*

Very glad I haven't noticed anyone's undergarment habits.

Ultimately, it comes down to what's smart business. As it has been said, taller coasters need a large amount of space for larger elements. Yes, Cedar Point got a lot of awe out of Millennium Force, but I would almost argue around that time was a real golden age of roller coaster building. But Top Thrill Dragster didn't make the impact that Millennium Force did. Maybe that was the sign that being the "-est" wasn't going to draw people like it used to.

And let's be honest...Maverick packs a punch with less space and far less money. Will there be a 500 ft coaster? I'd be shocked if we don't see one. But do I want one? No, I want a good, thrilling roller coaster. If you can take me up 300 ft. and give me thrilling, I'm on board. If you can take me up 150 ft and do the same thing...count me in there too.

I have never preached doomsday for any theme parks. Maybe my first post about flashpass ten years ago, maybe. I forget. I might tell you all again my thought on that, some other time, some other topic.

How did this thread ever move from "breaches" to "breeches"? Whatever happened to Coasterbuzz?

I didn't have enough time last night to fully respond...

Travis, you've been posting the same nonsense for the last ten years. Your opinion is fine. No one said it was invalid.

I post nonsense, but my opinion is fine and not invalid?

But you oft herald the apocalypse.

Nope. Never. Never ever.

FOL Access is bad and parks will pay.

I never ever said that the parks will pay. I do not believe that, never have.

Low capacity rides are disservices to customers.

Yes, that is my opinion. It is a newly posted opinion, brought on by the new freefall ride at Magic mountain. How is that a ten-year-old nonsensical opinion? There have been a few people here who have the same opinion, but say it in such a way as to not annoy you. Are their opinions on the subject nonsense as well?

They do that so people will HAVE to buy FOL.

I often say that this is a possibility, but that since I am not sitting in the room when decisions are made, I have no idea that it is true or not. I also say that even if it isn't true, it appears to some people to be true, and that is just as bad. I have said exactly that. I don't see what is so nonsensical about that. It's actually pretty solid.

Eventually the parks will learn.

I have never ever said that. I do not believe that, never have.

I'm sorry, isn't that what you've been arguing for years?

Nope.

And every time we point out that it's fine not to like it but the parks aren't hurting as you so adamantly claim they're eventually going to be.

First of all, "we"? Who's "we"? Remember what I said about thinking for yourself?

Second of all, I never claimed, ever, that parks are hurting because of doing this stuff. You are either misunderstanding the words that I write about the subject, placing your own negative thoughts into my writings subconsciously because you WANT my ideas on the subject to be VERY wrong, or lying to make me look bad.

Opinions are fine. Complaining sucks.

Is it your opinion that I annoy you with my nonsensical but valid opinions, or are you complaining about me?

I like and respect both of you, but really, guys? Really?

I like and respect everyone here too. I got called out. I hope no one faults me for defending myself.

When it devolves into a pissing match about your personalities, it ceases to be interesting and lacks any meaningful contribution to the community, which is why I asked you to give it a rest.

I can't wait for the 500 ft. barrier to be smashed. Longer lines on stupid paper clip rides that don't work=shorter lines everywhere else in whatever park gets one of these. Maybe by the time I get to Magic Mountain, this will be a reality.

This thread opened and closed less than two years ago....and has been answered in the affirmative.

Apparently 600' is going down too.

Polercoaster.

Still wish it had been the Fishhook.

Do these really count though? Polercoasters, I mean? They're hitched to a building and aren't about to break any of the speed records that free-standing coasters possess. A 500' mega-, no giga-, no strata-, no quinta? coaster would be taller than many of the tallest buildings in America's biggest cities. We may see one someday, advancements in the industry seem to come just as fast as those in other industries these days.

The tallest building in the world before the Burj Khalifa (2700 ft) was completed in 2010 was Taipei 101, built in 2004, at about 1700 ft. That's a a 1000' increase in just 6 years. I don't mean to draw a direct connection between building heights and coasters', I just mean to point out the huge sudden increase.

Height of the structure and vertical drop are clearly not the same thing. What you're really left with here is just some decisions about how these things are marketed.

It's only going to get more and more ambiguous as new and different ways to build, create and present roller coasters continue to become available and evolve and lines blur.

Which will inevitably lead to many a blown enthusiast mind due to confusion over how to categorize everything in their track record.

Second favorite powered non-terrain purple sit-down steel coaster under 73.4 feet with fewer than 6 drops running themed non-OTSR rolling stock at a minimum of 7mph: Dragon Wagon.

To use some of the logic dotted around the internet regarding this new breed, the former High Roller on the Stratosphere Tower would be the tallest coaster ever built? But, it wasn't...

^^ Call me a purist curmudgeon, but I only count powered non-terrain violet sit-down steel coasters under 73.4 feet with fewer than 6 drops running themed non-OTSR rolling stock at a minimum of 7mph.

Lord Gonchar said:

It's only going to get more and more ambiguous as new and different ways to build, create and present roller coasters continue to become available and evolve and lines blur.

I hate these blurred lines....