Combined Coasters?? - CoasterBuzz

WOuld it be possible to make a coaster with 3 different styles of trains at the same time. For example one rollercoaster that has a sit down train, a floorless train and a stand up train? I think that would be a cool ride!

There is a Togo coaster in Japan that has both a sit down and and stand up train. Kind of a neat idea, huh? The logistics of the boarding floor for the floorless coasters make the idea of combining a florless with another type pretty unlikely.

Come to think of it, there are a few stand ups I've ridden that I would like to try sitting down. But, let's face it, the chances of a park buying a different stlye of trains are VERY unlikely!

This can be done, just have the heartlines of all three types on the same height off the track. Could have three queue lines for each type. Or have a multi-train, i.e. first three rows Floorless, next three Sit-Down and the last three Stand-up.

OBTW, there was an old Arrow Corkscrew SD coaster that at one time had SU Trains similar to TOGO SU Trains & was renamed Extreme Roller. Of course, with the HL way off, riders got banged up! :)
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Well.... There wouldn't be a heartline for one, corkscrews and large inversions. Having a que for each could be a problem if one version wasn't very popular. Could be done though. What I'm waiting for is a new backward coaster that isn't wooden. No one makes these.

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It's an interesting idea, that's for sure. I know that there is one coaster (the name/park escapes me for now) that during the Halloween season they run one train forward and one train backward. But I like the idea of the different ones on the same track!

To stretch the idea: how about a dueling coaster where one is steel and one inverted? Or wooden and steel and so forth. The engineering alone would be impressive.

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A long time ago I thought of this and that it would be a pretty cool idea. But if you had three different coaster trains on one coaster, than how many differnet coasters would that be? Would it be one or three? Obviously there's three different types of experiences rolled into one thing. What do you think?

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I think it would be an awesome idea to have a rollercoaster riding on top of the track and an inverted running below it. You could have stacked stations for boarding the ride.

Koaster King - In my opinion, I think it would have to count as two coasters, since it would be two different experiences. Dueling Dragons, for instance, I consider two rides, because the track layouts are different. Gemini, however, is one coaster because the tracks are mirrored (one is the same as the other its just you go left instead of right, etc). If there were different trains, I would tend to call that two rides.

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CrystalKat said:
...I know that there is one coaster (the name/park escapes me for now) that during the Halloween season they run one train forward and one train backward...

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Valleyfan! said:
"I think it would be an awesome idea to have a rollercoaster riding on top of the track and an inverted running below it. You could have stacked stations for boarding the ride."

Now that would rock! I'm not sure about the logistics though. How would you deal with that "heartline" issue???
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Valleyfan! said:
"I think it would be an awesome idea to have a rollercoaster riding on top of the track and an inverted running below it. You could have stacked stations for boarding the ride."

It might be a cool idea, but it is not possible as there would be no way to support the tracks. Think about it - standard coasters have their supports on the bottom and inverts have them on the top - it is not physically possible.

Mike

Well, I can think of at least two ways to have inverted and sit-down running on the same track.

For one, support the tracks from the SIDES. Now, we still we couldn't have crossties, which means keeping the track gauge consistent becomes problematic. Hmmm...

The other idea? Look at X -- the seats are hanging off to the sides of the car. Put seats on top of the car as well, and now you have a train with "inverted" seats to the sides, and regular "sitdown" seats over the track.

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why couldn't you have crossties?

millrace said:
"why couldn't you have crossties?"

Well, if we try to run inverted AND sitdown cars on the same track, where do the crossties go? On inverted coasters, the crossties are "above" the track; on a sitdown the crossties are "below". Running straight across doesn't work in either case, either -- the car's wheel assemblies need to go somewhere, and since we've moved the supports to the outside, we need to put the wheels inside. So, no crossties.

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I'm thinking of Intamins box track. It is tall(?) enough to allow a middle support while still providing enough clearance for wheels above and below. I guess it also depend on how strict you want to be with the definition of "one track." Imagine something like Arrow track, one right side up and the other upside down. They'd be joined at the middle of the crossties providing a nice place to attach a support arm.