Clues point to Toy Story ride at Disney-MGM

Wow, the paper was certainly slow abut this one, its been online that the things been green lit ever since Millionaire closed.

What's with that place, building the same ride over and over and over again?

It was bad enough that there are three "Mini-Jet" type rides in the Magic Kingdom alone, plus a fourth in Animal Kingdom. Now not only are they going to duplicate the Buzz Lightyear ride system in a second park, they are going to base the new ride on the same movie?!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Anyone else notice the story on the same page about possibly a new theme park constructed around water, does not say where the park is for though.
*** This post was edited by supermandl 1/19/2007 2:16:51 PM ***

Dave: the technology behind this is supposed to be quite different. If I recall correctly, rather than cardboard 2d and molded 3-d targets, the environment in this attraction is largely virtual. This should enable some pretty nifty effects not possible in physical-target shooters.

On the other hand, Disney's been building the same ride over and over again since the dawn of time. In US parks only:

The one you mention, and my favorite, the "around-in-circles" group
Dumbo (x2)
Astro Orbiter (x2)
Aladdin

The venerable "tracked single-vehicle dark-ride group"
Pooh (x2)
Snow (x2)
Toad
Alice
Monsters Inc

You can include Pan (x2) in this, if you lump inverted tracked 1ve darks.

The "water channel dark ride group"
pirates (x2)
iasw (x2)
el rio del tiempo

(Add splash (x2) and maelstrom to this list if you like.)

Then, there's the Omni-mover darkride group
Mansion (x2)
Spaceship earth
Journey into your imagination
Nemo/living seas
(throw in all of "old Epcot" too: Horizons and World of Motion)
(If you want you can also include Buzz (x2), and Midway Mania (x2) in this group, or call 'em shooters.)

The "Moving theater" group
Energy Adventure
Great Movie ride

The "4D theater" group
honey I shrunk (x2)
Tough to be a bug (x2)
muppet 3-d (x2)
Philharmagic

The "interactive theater" group
Turtle talk w/ Crush (x2)
Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor Comedy club

The "AA show" group
Tiki (x2)
Presidents
Lincoln
American Adventure

The "simulator" group
Star Tours (x2)
Body Wars (when it's open)
Soarin (x2) (this one is a stretch, but what the heck.)

I read a detailed description of the new tech. and it should really make this ride quite unique. It's going into DCA as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Indiana Jones @ Disneyland and Dinosaur/Countdown to Extinction @ Animal Kingdom the same motion base but with different effects?

Yes. Not only the same motion base, but the same track layout, if memory serves.

But, they are on opposite coasts, so I'm willing to forgive them that one. My list above is just duplicate ride systems within a *single* location---Florida or California.

^ Yes....but CA got the better ride...as seems to be the case with all the other rides that co-exist in FL and CA...

Except DAK got the *spinning* mouse, and DCA got the "startlingly uninspired" Mulholland Drive.....er, Madness...Gadget's Go-Coaster had better theming.

When the "clone" talk comes up here, I think it is silly. If a ride works in one place, it will work in the other.The many spinning rides built around the parks are only for kids. Kids don't care if they are the same concept, to them they're riding in Dumbo here, Dinosaurs here, Rockets there, and Magic Carpets there. Kids see the theme not the type of ride.I thought Dinosaur was a great ride. Second to only Expedition Everest at Animal Kingdom. For one who likes thrill rides, I was actually scared on Dinosaur. You almost see it coming, but then the dinosaurs appears as if he's right next to you.

After seeing the artwork, it appears like the new park drawing resembles DisneySea in Tokyo. A park that would fit very nicely as a fifth park in Florida.
*** This post was edited by gomez 1/19/2007 4:59:57 PM ***

Dinosaurs! You're right. I totally forgot about Triceratops Spin in the "around-in-circles" group!

For what it's worth, with the exception of putting three around-in-circleses in one park I don't have a problem with any of this. Just reminding Dave that re-using ride systems for new attractions is nothing new for the Mouse.

(Okay, technically the Camels can spit at you on Aladdin, and you can vary the pitch as well as the altitude, but still, did MK *really* need another around-in-circles?)

Saying they make the same ride over and over again is like saying Six Flags does the same thing.

The tracks are the same, but each ride is different (speaking about solely Disneyland here).

Don't tell me that Monsters Inc is the same as Buzz Lightyear.... they're totally different rides.

Plus, keep in mind Disney likes to provide service to FAMILY... Grandma has a hard time going on anything but those little rides.

Don't get too excited about the new park drawing. It is for the park that may, or may not, be built on mainland China. The US won't be seeing a new Disney park for quite some time.

"The US won't be seeing a new Disney park for quite some time"

And you are so sure of this how.....???????

From my understanding this Toy Story ride is going to be a mix between the current Dark Interactive shooters and Spiderman at IOA.