August 31, 2002, 12:50P

drachenfyre

I remember some kind of coaster that looked like Vekoma track (though I'm pretty sure it wasn't Vekoma) that goes literally up, like an elevator almost, and that when it reaches the top, the track lurches forward and connects to the ride, like transfer track. A tilt coaster or something. I know the going up part sounds a little off, and it probably is, but the tilt part I'm sure of, that there is a prototype out there.

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August 31, 2002, 1:07P

CedarPointNut

yeah but that's not a jump

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September 1, 2002, 5:23P

RubberDucky


DLDude13 said:
Imagine a pitch dark part of the ride. The rails glow in the dark. If you painted a section black, than it would deffently look as if the track was missing. easy as that.

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I think that would be awsome! The problem with anything is that people would know after the fact that it wasn't really a jump, but for first time riders it would be cool.

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September 1, 2002, 7:21P

CedarPointNut

Yeah but also think about who would know that it was jump and who wouldn't? Don't you think that they would spill the beans at some point? Then it just makes it a pointless ride. I think we whould divert the discussion back to having an actual jump.

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September 3, 2002, 1:14P

CedarPointNut

is somebody going to respond to this? this is getting pretty interesting.

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September 3, 2002, 1:16P

Millenium Force Maniac

no, I don't think if they made it look real enough. I mean, there's tons of optical illusions in rides that aren't real that people know about, but it still thrills them, but it still looks like that on the ride, and therefore your brain tells you that.
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September 3, 2002, 1:24P

DLDude13

I rode Tomb Raider, not knowing what would happen. It sucked major balls, and i probably wont ride it again. The glowing thing would please the first time guests, and its still a coaster! Most people dont know The Beast's layout until the ride it. And even when they know it, its still fun. I think it would be an interesting addition, with no negative qualities about it.

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September 4, 2002, 9:51A

StEeL PhAnToM

The jackrabbit at kennywood does infact leave the track for a brief moment inbetween the doubble dip and the hill also in myrtle beach pavilion(not a coaster enthsusic park) there is a coaser there called the hurricane and last year it was struck by a tornado the drop is like 80* and the back car goes of about 2-5inches its really rough wooden coaster
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September 4, 2002, 10:04A

Mamoosh

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Steel Phantom - sorry but you're facts are completely, totally, 100% wrong. Both coasters you mentioned run trains that have upstop wheels, so it is physically impossible for the trains to leave the track. Furthermore, Hurricane's first drop isn't anywhere near 80*.

Moosh - who has the suspicion he's feeding a troll.

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September 4, 2002, 10:30A

CoasterMan-

Why not have the gap span about five or six feet, and make the landing about two feet lower.

For cars use intamin single car boblsleigh cars. Mount normal bogeys on the cars, then put Intamin bobsled wheels on the outside of the the other bogeys, so it could run in a trough as well as on normal track. Have the jump land on the bobsled section, then have the car enter an Intamin bobsled style break run, then reconnet to the normal track.

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September 4, 2002, 10:46A

CedarPointNut

Yeah, check the first page. I said that.

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September 4, 2002, 10:46A

DLDude13

^ and a big gust of wind comes along and knocks it off course.

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September 4, 2002, 11:05A

StEeL PhAnToM

Ok but it really does feel that way when your on the jackrabbit i am pretty sure that will be the only way on having the feeling of leaving the track and the only other way is to have a metal bar hooked on to the car(like the turtles at kennywood) and have a jump in the track and have the bar go up then come down right on course to the wider track! that would be a safee way anyhow
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September 4, 2002, 1:50P

CoasterMan-


CedarPointNut said:
Yeah, check the first page. I said that.

According to what you wrote on the first page, your idea involves retracting upstops, while mine, if you would of read, suggests having a whole other set of side and running wheels mounted on the bottem and side of the current bogeys. For the most part you want to limit the number of moving parts, and having retractable bogeys just provides another thing that can go wrong, along with dilema of having to create a sensor or some sort of mechanical apparatus to retract and detract the upstops.

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September 4, 2002, 3:07P

beeman65

is to have a metal bar hooked on to the car(like the turtles at kennywood) and have a jump in the track and have the bar go up then come down right on course to the wider track! that would be a safee way anyhow

Even though I'm sure you mean "safer" I'll be looking forward to your patent. I can't wait to ride this "jumping" coaster, unhibited except for a metal bar!

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September 4, 2002, 3:22P

Nate

There was something similar to this at IAAPA 2000, I think.

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September 4, 2002, 3:24P

CobraRoller

Think about it though, would it really be all that fun? Even if it was on a bobsled coaster, it would have an extremely rough landing. Perhaps you could have a boblsed coaster that goes up the lift, drops, turns, and all that stuff for a lil while, and instead of a jump, enters some sort of elevator shaft, Then instead of going just straight down to another part of the track and finishing the rest of the ride, the train enters the shaft and twirls down to the remaining track. That would be very dissorienting, especially if it turned different directions on every ride, so you didn't know when anything was coming.

Thats just some thought that I had, and it kind of sounds a little stupid but I thought I would share with you guys.

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September 4, 2002, 3:37P

CedarPointNut


DLDude13 said:
^ and a big gust of wind comes along and knocks it off course.

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WOW. Didn't think of that one. Maybe the part with the jump should be enclosed so there is no wind. But it would have to be ILLUMINATED!!

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September 4, 2002, 3:44P

RubberDucky

CedarpointNut-Then if it was enclosed you could get too much weight on the traina and have everybody bonk their heads on the ceiling. But thats not even the biggest concern, the fact is that trains weigh about 20,000 pounds. Geting wooden supports strong enough to take a pounding like that is most likely impossible, and it would wear down steel too quickly.

It just won't happen, the train of a coaster WILL always be somehow attatched to the track, at least in our lifetime anyway.

Now you may say I have no faith or what not, but every idea people come up with has at least 3 MAJOR flaws, and most would require a defiance of the laws of physics to fix.

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September 4, 2002, 4:05P

CedarPointNut

You're right, I am saying that you have no faith. But first of all, you could make the ceiling high enough so you wouldn't bonk your head on it, plus, I'm sure that it can be done and when you see my name out there in the business because of my new patent, I will say that I am CedarPointNut and you will feel bad, and then you will call me, and say that you are RubberDucky, and you're going to be sucking up to me because I'm gonna be rich off my new track element and you're just gonna be some regular-old operator at some low-life park you opened up called "Rubber Ducky Land Without Jumps" and you're gonna go out of business because all of your guests are gonna come to my par, called "Cedar Point Nut Land With Jumps" and you're gonna be sad and broke.

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